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New Shoe Roundup: Trail Shoes Coming in 2016

Back in early August I had the fantastic opportunity to go to the Outdoor Retailer Show in Salt Lake City for the first time and check out the new shoes that are coming out late winter/early spring. Below are the trail shoes I had the opportunity to see at the show. Of note, Outdoor Retailer tends to attract more trail/outdoor oriented shoe brands, and not all running shoe companies were present.  Notably, Nike, ASICS, and Mizuno were not present so I don’t have any info on their 2016 releases.

Also of note, I choose to segment the trail market into what I call, for simplicity’s sake, “trail” shoes and “mountain” shoes.  Trail shoes are those designed for smoother, well marked trails, dirt roads and tend to have less lug depth.  Mountain shoes are designed for the more technical terrain that is usually, though not always, found in the mountains, though any very technical or steep trail can demand similar requirements from a shoe.  What I list below are those shoes that I (not necessarily the manufactures) deem as the trail offerings I saw at this years Outdoor Retailer.  A subsequent post will preview the mountain shoes.

adidas

Very unique upper design that could be too much or could be a highlight. I've liked the XT's unconventional upper so will hold judgement on these till I try them.

Very unique upper design that could be too much or could be a highlight. I’ve liked the XT’s unconventional upper so will hold judgement on these till I try them.

adidas Supernova Riot Boost – weight 12.6 oz men, 10.2 women, drop: 10mm, available: February 2016, Price $130.

Given the quality of adidas’ newly Boosted trail lineup launched this summer, I’m pretty excited about the potential this shoe has as a unique all around trail option.  The lugs are shallower (5mm) than both the Raven (6.5 mm) and Response Trail (8mm), and it has a very unique upper design that is similar to the XT Boost, but looks a little thicker and more protective.  Not sure this will be that great in the summer, but could be very nice in poor conditions.  The outsole is also notable in that it uses what Continental calls their Gator Skin process which allows them to mold the outsole at a minimum thickness of 1 mm instead of 3 mm so they can reduce weight.  A puncture resistant layer between the outsole and Boost midsole is added to protect the foot and midsole.

Laces then hook and loop enclosure to wrap over the laces.

Laces then hook and loop enclosure to wrap over the laces.

 

Great outsole design as usual with adidas/Continental. Notice how thin it is in the center.

Great outsole design as usual with adidas/Continental. Notice how thin it is in the center.


 

Altra

The Olympus is every bit as substantial as any Hoka

The Olympus is every bit as substantial as any Hoka.

Altra Olympus 2.0 – weight 10.8 oz men, zero drop, price $149

I haven’t run in any of the Olympus models to date, but I know many runners (especially in the ultra scene) that love them for long races.  They’re zero drop, wide and cushy.  The 2.0 gets the welcome addition of Vibram MegaGrip rubber and a complete overhaul on the midsole and upper as well.  I was told the toe spring/taper was tweaked a bit to be more gradual.  Interested to see how it runs compared to the Skechers GOtrail Ultra 3, which is probably its closet competitor.

Nice looking outsole on them. I personally can't see using them on anything but flatter outings, but you never know!

Nice looking outsole on them. I personally can’t see using them on anything but flatter outings, but you never know!

Altra Superior 2.0

The Superior 2.0 gets an upper update and a pretty minimal one at that.  The biggest change is that Altra fixed the sizing issue from the original 2.0 where they ran 1/2 to a full size small. Other than that, it’s the Superior 2.0.  I’ve recently run in a pair of 2.0s and liked them overall.  As with most Altras, they run a tad heavy to me, but the Superior is one of the first Altra shoes to be secure enough for me in the upper, and I’m interested in having some zero drop options in the rotation.

New upper and sizing issue corrected.

Slightly new upper and sizing issue corrected.


 

Brooks

Brooks Cascadia 11 – weight: 11.8 oz men; 10.1 oz women, drop: 10mm, available 01/01/16, price: $120

The Cascadia is one of those classic models that’s been around quite some time, relatively unchanged and….I’ve never run in a pair.  I do have a pair of Cascadia 10s that I just need to get out on a run with.  Updates are subtle in the upper and that’s a good thing if you like the Cascadia series.  A very popular shoe on the trails that should handle the gamut.

Fairly unchanged from v10, but still an all-around solid looking option with more traditional protection and geometry.

Fairly unchanged from v10, but still an all-around solid looking option with more traditional protection and geometry.


 

Dynafit

Dynafit Feline Ultra – weight 12 oz men, 10.2 women, drop: 8mm, available March 2016 , price $139.95

New upper on the Feline Ultra.

New upper on the Feline Ultra that is simplified and refined from the Panterra that it replaces.

The Feline Ultra is an update to the Panterra and looks to mainly update the rubber to Vibram MegaGrip and streamline the upper design, which will be a good thing.  I’ve run in the Panterra a bit and while it isn’t a horrible shoe by any means, the upper was pretty stiff and the shoe overall is quite stiff.  Some improvements in those categories could help with what is otherwise a shoe that is designed with great materials.

Black rubber section is now MegaGrip where it was Vibram Mapping Compound before.

Black rubber section is now MegaGrip where it was Vibram Mapping Compound before.


 

Hoka One One

Hoka Challenger ATR 2 – weight 9.5 oz men, drop: 5mm, available 1/1/2016, price $130.00

I’ve run just a few times in the Challenger ATR, and while it is still a bit soft for my tastes, I can see the appeal and I know many runners that love them.  The ATR 2 is an upper update that adds more security and durability in the overlays, and might help with what is generally a somewhat sloppy fit in my opinion for a shoe with that much stack/cushion.  The Challenger was definitely a hit this year for Hoka, and some refinement will only help.

Nice update to the overlays and I'm liking this colorway.

Nice update to the overlays and I’m liking this colorway.


 

La Sportiva

La Sportiva Helios 2.0 – weight 8.35 oz men, 6.45 oz women, stack: 19mm heel/15mm toe, available 4/1/16 price $125.00

New upper that might modernize the fit a little.

New upper that might modernize the fit a little.

The Helios series, which birthed out of the midsole/outsole platform of the Vertical K, is one that I’ve not had much luck with from both a fit and function standpoint.  From the fit side of things, the Helios and Helios SR just fit small all the way around.  Normally not a huge issue for most folks as you can size up, but I’m a 47.5 in La Sportiva and that is the largest they make.  The thing is all the other models of Sportivas fit just fine.  I was told that the Helios 2.0 fits a little more true to size which would be great if true.

From the function standpoint, I’m just not sold on the Morpho Dynamic midsole/outsole design (the “waves”), especially for technical trail.  The midsole ride quality is not good enough to justify the shoes as a trail racer, yet the protection is lacking for true technical terrain, mostly due to the fact that there is just too much exposed EVA on them. Well the Helios 2.0 doesn’t change the platform, but adds endurance (AT) rubber and their “cushion platform” insert.  A new upper gives me hope that the fit might be a bit better.  All in all, if you like the Helios or Helios SR (which stays in the line), the Helios 2.0 is a little more differentiated from the SR while still retaining the qualities the platform is known for.

AT rubber throughout (blue FriXion "x")

AT rubber throughout (blue FriXion “x”)

La Sportiva Akasha – weight 11.35 oz men, 9.80 oz women, stack: 26mm heel/20mm toe, available 4/1/2016, price $140.00

Nice and clean upper with an open toebox and good overlays. Short of trying it on, it looks pretty good.

Nice and clean upper with an open toebox and good overlays. Short of trying it on, it looks pretty good.

The Akasha is an interesting entry from La Sportiva.  Mainly being that it is a much more cushioned option than they typically offer, and yet it tries to retain the technical profile of most of Sportiva’s offerings.  Cushioning and technical performance are usually not things that go hand in hand, but having seen the Akasha in person, I’m definitely holding out hope that they can pull it off.  It looks like a nice and comfortable upper and quality injected EVA.  The outsole looks great, which Sportiva usually excels at (their rubber compounds are fantastic), so overall a shoe to watch this next season.

Solid outsole design with Sportivas XT rubber which is a mix of XF (sticky) black rubber and AT (durable) red rubber in certain areas.

Solid outsole design with Sportivas XT rubber which is a mix of XF (sticky) black rubber and AT (durable) red rubber in certain areas.


 

Montrail

Montrail Fluid Flex FKT – weight 9.2 oz men, 7.7 oz women, drop: 4mm, available 2/1/2016 , price $110.00

Great new upper with refined overlays and seamless design.

Great new upper with refined overlays and seamless design.

I tried a few runs in the original Fluid Flex, and tried on the Fluid Flex 2 – I really was not into either.  The foam was too soft and unstable to me, and the uppers didn’t hold the foot well.  I recently received a pair of the Fluid Flex ST from Montrail for review (coming soon), and have been pleasantly surprised with the changes they’ve made.  First, they added a co-molded EVA rock plate in the forefoot and completely changed the ride for the better with their Fluid Guide midsole. This allows them to put denser foam in the midfoot (on both medial and lateral sides) in a gradual way, and it works great with the ST providing more structure, sharper edging and stability to the platform while still allowing for a cushioned experience.  The FKT retains the rock plate and fluid guide of the ST, but gets a slick new seamless upper that may just perfect the shoe into one of the best lightweight trail offerings around.  Excited to give this one a try come February!

Co-molded EVA rock plate in the forefoot (white color) and harder midsole in the midfoot that you can't see visually but can feel when you hold the shoe.

Co-molded EVA rock plate in the forefoot (white color) and harder midsole in the midfoot that you can’t see visually but can feel when you hold the shoe.

Montrail Caldorado – weight 11.0 oz men, 9.1 oz women, drop: 8mm, available 2/1/2016, price $120.00

Caldorado upper and profile is nice and clean and should be a nice all around platform. Excited to give them a try.

Caldorado upper and profile is nice and clean and should be a nice all around platform. Excited to give them a try.

The Caldorado is a new entry for Montrail in addition to the Trans Alps (more on that one below).  Montrail is attempting to get back to its roots with a full featured and functionally focused trail lineup.  The Caldorado is on a completely new platform, but if it runs like a more robust Fluid Flex ST then I’m definitely interested.  I like the look of the full coverage outsole and seamless upper, but the drop and weight might be just a bit higher than my personal preference (especially considering the Trans Alps is the same drop and not that much heavier).  A 10 oz, 6mm drop Caldorado would have really been the sweet spot I think, but regardless it looks like a solid entry that should compete well with the likes of the Pearl Izumi trail lineup and shoes like the Nike Wildhorse 3, but potentially with a little more precision via a narrower midsole profile (which I like).

Good looking outsole design with full coverage and rockplate in the forefoot. Check and check.

Good looking full coverage outsole design with rockplate in the forefoot. Check and check.

Montrail Trans Alps – weight 12.5 oz men, 10.9 oz women, drop: 8mm , available 2/1/2016, price $130.00

The Trans Alps has a more traditional upper with more support, low rand, and a little more supportive midsole design.

The Trans Alps has a more traditional upper with more support, low rand, and a little more supportive midsole design.

The Trans Alps is another new offering for Montrail, and it looks to aim at rough trail and mountain conditions.  My one concern with this is that the profile may be a bit too wide and high for this application, but you can’t always tell just looking at a shoe.  Midsole densities and geometry can play a role, as can the fit, so I’ll reserve judgement on it.  Otherwise, it looks like a nice, no frills offering that should give it some versatility.  It will be interesting to see how it stacks up against some other similar shoes like the La Sportiva Akasha and Scarpa Proton.

More lug (6mm depth compared to the Caldorado 5mm) and more aggressive pattern in addition to a rock plate means this shoe will take some abuse. I'm worried this will be at the cost of the ride quality, but I hope I'm surprised.

More lug (6mm depth compared to the Caldorado 5mm) and more aggressive pattern in addition to a rock plate means this shoe will take some abuse. I’m worried this will be at the cost of the ride quality, but I hope I’m surprised.


 

New Balance

New Balance Leadville MT1210v3 – weight 10.35 oz men, 8.75 oz women, drop: 8mm, available January 2016, price $124.95

Full redesign on the Leadville v3. Mostly seamless upper with straightforward overlay setup.

Full redesign on the Leadville v3. Mostly seamless upper with straightforward overlay setup.

The Leadville (1210) is one of those shoes that should run better than it does.  I’ve run in v1 and just couldn’t get into it for some reason.  It’s light, the upper is smooth and the outsole design is decent enough.  Unfortunately, to me the ride quality is just not what I look for in a trail shoe.  It is quite soft and unstable on uneven terrain, and also doesn’t run that great on smoother trails. The last as well is based on the PL last, but with more volume to supposedly accommodate late ultra marathon foot swelling.  In the end it just makes the shoe seem not as secure on 95% of your other runs.  The good news (if you like the 1210) and bad news (if you don’t) is that, while it is a full redesign, the general concept and geometries of the shoe are retained.  The outsole looks arguably better, but without a different fit and midsole design, I’m not sure it will make much difference to me.

Nice outsole design that is Pearl Izumi N2-esque which will be good all around.

Nice outsole design that is Pearl Izumi N2-esque which will be good all around.

New Balance MT10v4– weight 7.2 oz men, 5.8 oz women, drop: 4mm, available April 2016, price $114.95

A very nice looking update. The upper was super soft and although it looks a tad hot, it should be nice overall.

A very nice looking update. The upper was super soft and although it looks a tad hot, it should be nice overall.

Now here is a NB trail shoe that I’m pretty excited about!  A full refresh for the MT10 in v4. It adds 3mm more cushion than v3, it’s still on the NL-1 (Minimus) last, has full outsole coverage, and an Acteva midsole (maybe I’m the only one, but glad it’s not RevLite).  This basically puts the shoe in a very similar profile to the MT110v1 and I for one am glad to see a more minimal option being offered by NB when many companies aren’t even putting out a trail shoe lighter than 9 oz.  Really excited to run these for shorter outings, and they should perform well on technical terrain given what I know about the specs and fit.  Good job NB!

Nice aggressive yet versatile looking full coverage Vibram outsole on the MT10v4.

Nice aggressive, yet versatile looking full coverage Vibram outsole on the MT10v4.


 

The North Face

North Face Ultra Endurance – weight 11.0 oz men, drop: 8mm, price $125.00

I like the upper design. looks comfortable, secure and durable.

I like the upper design. looks comfortable, secure and durable.

The Ultra Endurance looks to be a nice new offering from North Face.  The Ultra MT took me by surprise this year (review forthcoming) with its Vibram Megagrip outsole and rockplate on a low profile mountain shoe (something not typically done…I don’t know why because it is great!).  The Ultra Endurance looks to take some of the design direction of the MT and give it a little more cushion and protection with a more trail friendly outsole design that is still Vibram Megagrip.  Overall a nice looking shoe that will expand The North Face’s somewhat lacking shoe offerings.

Great looking Vibram Megagrip outsole with a forefoot rock plate.

Great looking Vibram Megagrip outsole with a forefoot rock plate.


Saucony

Saucony Peregrine 6 – weight 9.4 oz men, 8.5 oz women, Stack: 21.5mm Heel, 17.5mm FF, available 1/1/2016 , price $120.00

Nice looking upper that seems softer and potentially a little less pointy than previous versions.

Nice looking upper that seems softer and potentially a little less pointy than previous versions.

The Saucony Peregrine is a shoe that I’ve had mixed feelings about int he past.  I ran in versions 1 and 2 and liked the protective ride on a 4mm drop profile, but the last is pointy and the shoe was really stiff.  To be fair, I did try on the Peregrine 5 and it seemed to be a better fit and more flexible as well, although I didin’t run in it.  The Peregrine 6 gets a new PWRTRAC outsole, which should soften the ride a bit, and the design will definitely enhance flexibility.  It also features an Everun insert in the heel (a topsole material that goes between the midsole and footbed) – it will be interesting to see what it contributes to the ride. It has a rock plate in both the heel and forefoot, and probably the softest looking upper of the whole Peregrine series.  This all adds up to create some potential for a great shoe.  Keeping my fingers crossed!

Nice looking outsole design (albeit maybe a tad agressive?). The most flexible feeling Peregrine to me and PWRTRAC is sticky and soft (like blown rubber).

Nice looking outsole design (albeit maybe a tad agressive?). The most flexible feeling Peregrine to me and PWRTRAC is sticky and soft (like blown rubber).


Salomon

Salomon S-Lab Sense 5 Ultra – weight 7.8 oz men, stack: 18mm Heel/14mm FF, price $180.00

Slightly lighter overlays and more open mesh design.

Slightly lighter overlays and more open mesh design.

The S-Lab Sense is an iconic shoe in the trail world, popularized by Salomon and their marquee athlete Kilian Jornet.  In its 5th iteration the Sense continues to see only minor tweaks.  For version 5 the main updates are a modified outsole geometry that sees some lugs being removed which results in a 20 g weight savings and a much more minimal mesh upper.  The rest of the midsole, pro-feel film rock protection, and upper design stays the same as version 4.  These changes might be small but I think will bring the Sense back to its roots a bit (a good thing…the 8.5oz version 4 was just too heavy for the type of shoe it is).  I’m hoping to get a chance to run in a pair this spring so I can let you know how it feels!

You can see tissue paper through mesh...thin!

You can see tissue paper through mesh…thin!

 

New outsole that if you look closely, you can tell they removed some lugs to reduce weight. I still think they need to fill in the gaps in the outsole.

New outsole that if you look closely, you can tell they removed some lugs to reduce weight. I still think they need to fill in the gaps in the outsole.  Features a new Premium Wet Traction Contragrip that should be stickier.

Salomon Sense Pro 2 – weight 9.3 oz men, stack: 23mm Heel/17mm FF, price $130.00

Simple and clean upper with lighter overlays than v1, but fairly unchanged upper design. New midsole but similar geometry.

Simple and clean upper with lighter overlays than v1, but fairly unchanged upper design. New midsole but similar geometry.

The Sense Pro was a great addition to Salomon’s lineup. It hit a sweet spot with many runners as it offered the feel of the Sense series, refinement of an S-Lab shoe, yet more protection and a lower price point.  The Sense Pro 2 is a full update top to bottom and looks to provide some nice improvements.  A new, softer midsole should be welcome (Sense Pro ran stiff and firm) for most and a new more well-rounded outsole should really make the Sense Pro 2 a nice middle of the road option. Excited to give these a try come spring.

Similar outsole design to the Sense 4 and should offer good varied surface grip.

Similar outsole design to the Sense 4 and should offer good varied surface grip.


 

Scarpa

Scarpa Proton – weight 12.2 oz men, 10.4 oz women, drop: 10mm, available Late Winter

Good upper design that is seemless and looks comfortable and having run in the Scarpa Tru, the last is a nice shape.

Good upper design that is seamless and looks comfortable. Having run in the Scarpa Tru, the last is a nice shape.

The Scarpa Proton is a part of a new series of offerings by Scarpa that look to be much more refined, and also offer a nice variation of drops and feature sets.  The Neutron and Atom I’ll feature in my mountain shoe preview, but the Proton, being higher stack and bulk, fits in my trail preview since I think higher weight and bulk tend to degrade a shoe’s performance in the mountains.  The shoe may surprise me though.  The upper looks simple but comfortable, and the outsole design is simple and looks versatile.  Rock plate, Vibram rubber and mountain design philosophy.  Excited to see how the whole lineup will run.

Great lug design and placement.

Great lug design and placement.


 

Skechers

Skechers GOtrail Ultra 3– weight 11.4 oz men, 9.2 oz women, 4mm drop (30mm H/26mm FF midsole heights), available January 2016, price $120

Nice and simple upper with a more refined design, aesthetic and overlay setup. Skechers Performance is maturing.

Nice and simple upper with a more refined design, aesthetic and overlay setup. Skechers Performance is maturing.

The Skechers GOtrail Ultra 3 could be a real sleeper hit. While the GOrun Ultra and Ultra 2 have had a following, to me the shoe wasn’t that refined, and the non-rubber outsole was an issue in a trail shoe of its design.  The Ultra 3 is taking on the likes of Hoka One One with what could be a much better shoe in the end (I know the last will be better). The midsole is Skechers’ new 5 Gen material, which I’ve run in and really like. It also has some actual rubber coverage, a unique drainage system, and a new soft and relatively seamless upper design.  I’m personally pretty excited about it, even though I normally don’t prefer so much cushion.  The Gen 5 is that good and the design is flexible enough.

Decent looking outsole that will provide plenty of flex and traction. I just hope it holds up longer than it looks like it would.

Decent looking outsole that will provide plenty of flex and traction. I just hope it holds up longer than it looks like it would; lots of exposed EVA that usually leads to torn off lugs for me.

That’s it for the trail roundup, stay tuned for the mountain shoes in a future post!

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David Henry is a 31 year old husband and father of 3 young children. He has completed over 23 ultra marathon events as well as many other shorter races. Some of the notable races he has completed include The Pike’s Peak Marathon, Speedgoat 50k, The Rut 50k, Gorge Waterfalls 100k and Bighorn 100. He has raced in diverse environments ranging from Alaska in winter to the Arizona desert. David appreciates well-crafted running shoes and running on any surface and distance. If interested you can follow my running on Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/davidjonhenry

Comments

  1. This blog has been overtaken by the maximalist trend. Can’t wait for this fad to fade out and die so we can get back to reading about non-Frankensteinian clodhoppers.

  2. David Henry says:

    Hey Chris. Sorry to read you feel the blog has be overrun by maximalist shoes. I can’t really agree completely with you on that since there are prob only 3-4 shoes in the post that would qualify as truly maximalist. True there aren’t as many pure minimalist shoes being produced but they are still out there and I do think the trend is shifting back toward the middle from what I saw and what I know some companies are working on for late 2016/2017. The MT10v4 for example at 7.2 oz is pretty minimalist yet I think will still offer enough protection for long-ish outings. Additionally, I’ve got a mountain shoe preview post coming which, since shoes for technical terrain need to be more minimal/proprioceptive, will have quite a few more lighter and lower options in it. Hope you can hang in there with us :)! -David

  3. I’m really excited about the Helios 2.0. The first version was near perfect for me, and it should be noted that I run on some of the gnarliest stuff in the northeast. Unlike you, David, I actually think the Morphodynamic sole is awesome on technical stuff, because it’s soft and flexible enough to bend around objects, increasing traction, and I’ve never had a problem with protection. I’m psyched they took the heel cup out, since it was a bit stiff, but I’m skeptical about the speed laces, which I imagine will last only a couple of runs for me before I replace them with standard laces.

    • David Henry says:

      Good to hear some feedback on the Helios. I haven’t run in them since the original version, mainly because of the sizing issue. If they get that resolved as I’ve been told, I’m interested to give them another go. I’d agree that, in theory, the wave outsole is going to add traction without weight, I just didn’t like the cutouts (always more risk of damaging the shoe and less protection in cutout areas). Again, based on your and SF Brian’s comments, they are due another go since it has probably been 3 years since I’ve run in the original version. Thanks for chiming in! – David

  4. Santa Fe Brian says:

    Always love to read about new trail and mountain trail shoes and appreciate your efforts reporting the new offerings coming in 2016 a great deal.

    However, I have to say I agree with Chris. I am hoping the maximalist trend gradually fades and occupies a smaller segment of new offerings. I think the maximalist trend has made shoe manufacturers incredibly lazy. I can’t believe anyone would want to run in anything heavier than a 10 ounce shoe on challenging terrain or longer runs. For me, light weight is a high priority and I think it’s possible to offer protection in a light weight shoe. Somehow maximalism has made heavier shoes acceptable – not to me.

    Onto your comments about the Helios. I think the Helios is a brilliant shoe and the midsole/outsole design offers a way to cut weight while still providing enough cushion to run long miles on punishing terrain. I’ve run on the Helios and Helios SR over the last year and a half on some of the most challenging mountain trails in New Mexico and have found that the “wave” style outsole offers more than enough protection. If you need more than this at this weight, your options are few.

    • David Henry says:

      Thanks for your comment. About the maximalist trend, I’m with you in my preferences and tend to prefer shoes under 9 oz., however, just like the minimalist trend, I think the maximalist one will have a good lasting impact on shoes in the next few years, since it forces companies to go out of the box and innovate with new materials or ways to use materials. That said, I think the high stack heights are generally pretty impractical for most running other than flat and smooth ground, but there are tons of runners (especially ultra runners) who won’t run in anything else.

      I will have a preview of mountain shoes coming in the next few weeks that has a lot more minimal options in it, which is more relevant the more technical the terrain gets. I do think though that having the full spectrum of options is better than a narrow window that only caters to one segment of the running population.

      See my comment to Brian above regarding Helios…I probably need to give them another go if I can get the 2.0 to fit well enough. I’ve always liked them spec-wise, but when I ran in the original a few years ago, I wasn’t that taken with them on smooth terrain and felt them to be a little thin in the forefoot for very rocky terrain (mainly due to the cutouts in the outsole I think) so while they weren’t terrible overall, they didn’t standout anywhere either. Should be getting some 2.0s within a few months for review and excited to refresh my memory with them as my tastes have migrated a bit since I ran in them previously (was pretty die-hard barefoot/minimalist back 3 years ago). -David

  5. Really disappointed that there still isn’t a NB MT110 v3. If I’ve ever been waiting for a shoe, it’s that one….

    • David Henry says:

      Thanks for reading the blog Bernie. There will be an MT110v3 of sorts called the Vazee Summit. It’s going to be in my next post, but they changed a fair bit from both the v1 and v2. It is now 10mm drop and on the NBJ last (same as NB1400). Still will be a light and fast trail shoe, but with the amount of lug on it, I saved it for my mountain shoe post. -David

      • Well…that’s the problem for me: while I don’t have a wide foot by any means, the NL-1 last just works better for me. Still hoping that NB will go back to the drawing board and simply improve the MT110 v1….

        • David Henry says:

          Agree with you there and feel they really messed up the MT110v2 with the PL last rather than NL-1. One shoe you might look at is the MT10v4 above in this preview. They increased the stack height 3mm so it is pretty comparable to the MT110v1 cushion wise and still on the NL-1 last. I’m pretty excited about it actually and with the full coverage outsole it could be just as or more protective than the 110v1. -David

        • David Henry says:

          Also, you’ll really like my mountain shoe post coming up soon. A few good shoes with 4mm drop, rock plates and around the 8 oz range that will be viable 110 like replacements.

  6. Pretty excited about MT10v4 and Zante v2 too.

    Never ran in a New Balance shoe, but I guess 2016 will be the year to try it!

    Does anyone can compare NL-1 (MT10) and VL-6 (Zante) lasts?

    • David Henry says:

      NL-1 is narrower in the heel and midfoot (slightly) and maybe a bit wider in the forefoot, but more tapered on the lateral side than the VL-6. The VL-6 is like a blend between the NL-1 and NBJ (1400). I think the VL-6 ends up fitting the widest range of runners, but I still like the NBJ and NL-1 lasts too. Those three are the only NB lasts that work for me. The PL last (890, Boracay, Hierro, 910v2, etc…most of their mainline shoes) doesn’t work too well for me…too wide in the heel and midfoot and too pointed in the toebox; not a good combo! -David

      • Thanks a lot David.

        That’s exactly what I’m looking for (narrow heel; wide forefoot) in case of NL-1 and VL-6.

        And exactly what I’m *not* looking for (wide heel; narrow forefoot) in case of PL.

        • David Henry says:

          You bet. We are on the same page with shoe fit. Thing is, it seems to me that the majority of feet are shaped that way, but many shoes are not…Good news is, shoes lasts have come a long way in the last few years and there are a lot better options out there than there used to be fit wise.

  7. I’m curious if Saucony will be doing an update to the Nomad TR next year. That shoe hasn’t gotten a lot of press and it’s too bad. I love my pair and hope they don’t change much in an update.

    • David Henry says:

      I haven’t seen anything, but they show it due to be updated for Fall 2016. My guess is it will likely be just and upper revision, but I don’t know that for sure.

      -David

  8. Great post. I’m really excited to try the Skechers Gotrail Ulta 3. Any idea when they are going to be released?

    • David Henry says:

      Thanks for reading. The GOtrail Ultra 3 should be out any day. I’ve already run in a pair that I recieved early and they are very good. Best maximalist shoe I’ve tried and great fit on them. -David

  9. Louis Pitschmann says:

    Love the Hokas, but after a few hours the narrow toe box causes problems for me. Went back to the Leadville v3 for now. Appreciate your review of all these shoes. I’m an old guy, I guess, 63+, but a runner since ’75. Trying ultras for the first time this century.

    • David Henry says:

      Hey Louis, thanks for the comment. I hear you on the Hokas…same issue for me with the toe box and I don’t understand why they go so narrow for a shoe that is ideal for longer outings! Good news is the Skechers GOtrail Ultra 3: link to runningwarehouse.com that I list at the bottom of this preview is fantastic and an awesome fit with wide toebox and similar (I think better) cushion to Hoka. I’d highly recommend them for any Hoka wearer especially one like yourself that finds Hokas narrow. I’ve got a full review of them coming soon, but I can say I really like the shoe and will be using them quite a bit this year. David

  10. Adidas Supernova Riot Boost vs XT Boost:
    any comparison? Are both good for an ultramarathon (50k – trail not too technical)?

    • David Henry says:

      The biggest difference between those two is the fit and amount of cushion/boost. The Riot is an interesting fit and pretty heavy upper that I’d probably only use in cooler months. The XT is lighter and more snug overall, but a faster ride and only Boost in the forefoot. I’d use the XT in a 50k for sure…not sure about the Riot though. They didn’t fit me well so haven’t run in them. -David

  11. hi david– (hope you’re getting notifications these days…)
    i’m thinking about caldorado and trans alps. would you prefer caldorado if terrain is not too technical? will trans alps work pretty well on smoother terrain also? have you tried the new f.k.t. version? that one makes it seem more appealing if it turned out well. i’m hoping to be able to use one of these for hiking as well–thoughts? is trans alps a lot stiffer?

    thanks,
    bruce

    ps: have you tried rogue f.k.t.?

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