Honestly, they are really quite different. Adios 1 is definitely more friendly to slower paces and you are right the adios 2 will be stiffer and not great for slow road running. I’ve probably only used them on roads 1 times…all the other times have been on trails where the stiffness/firmness is less of an issue and more of an asset…both great shoes though and I probably prefer them over their Boost counterparts (although the boost adios does run well on the roads I think). -David

many thanks. do you think the adiprene adios 2 is worth considering compared to adios 1 (haile)? is it a lot stiffer and not so great for slower running?

Hey Bruce. No worries on Boston 3…I’ll still run them some more, but have switched to trails now and being that I only have one pair, saving them for roads later. They aren’t that stiff but maybe just a little chunkier than I expected…I’d guess they’ll get better with some more miles.

RE: Haile, yeah I really like them and need to get another pair before they don’t make them anymore….I don’t know if they are my favorite per se, but definitely one of the best racing flats I’ve tried and for sure better than the 1400. Another awesome shoe that I just got in, is the Nike Zoom Streak 6…they totally revamped it and it is really nice feeling and super light, but enough shoe to run a marathon in (at 6.5 oz!). -David

thanks,
bruce

I’ve only got one run in the Boston 3 at this point and they felt decent…like a more substantial adios 2. Fairly stiff though, which I guess will break in, but Glide 5 didn’t feel quite so stiff. Tempo 4 is also pretty dense and stiff…not much time in them either, since I’ve been trying to get time in review pairs. I got the Boston 3 in the Blue/grey color. RE: midsole deterioration over time, I don’t think it is a big issue unless the shoe was stored in a hostile environment (i.e. in sunlight or heat for a long time). That said I’m sure there is some point where the foam will degrade, but I don’t think even 10 years is enough for that. Original adios and Haile are basically the same shoe other than the extra rubber on the big toe of the outsole, which I like. Both ride great and I’m super glade they brought it back! -David

so how did boston 3 turn out for you? (also, compared to tempo 4?) hope you like them! which color (which would indicate how old they are)? do you have any concern about unused midsole deteriorating over a few years?

and original adios vs. haile?

best.
bruce

Just tried the adios 1 Haile today as a matter of fact! Fantastic shoe! I have a pair of originals too, but just got them on eBay and haven’t run in them yet. The Haile’s are really good and almost an ounce lighter than the adios boost 2/3. They updated the outsole a bit too over the original which will give it more durability and also trail worthiness.

I also managed to find some Boston 3s in size 13 on Amazon and decided to pull the trigger on them :), will be fun to give them a go when they get in.

David

thanks, david. fy(et al.)i, xt 5 is available for $32 (!) at:

http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/adidas-Men's-Adizero-XT-5-Trail-Running-Shoe—Base-Green/0000000218913?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=shopping%2Bsearch&utm_campaign=google%2Bproduct%20search&gslfah&gclid=Cj0KEQiA5oy1BRDQh6Wd572hsfkBEiQAfdTPCqe-meW1GFh_myl1V0ScybmOFB6SvZtk6FpGR_bJbN8aAtip8P8HAQ

no idea why this place has them. i would think you would need deeper lugs for traction on the hog farm.

have you tried the resurrected adios (haile)? i never actually got my hands on the original originals, but the way people talk about them…

Haha, no not a sudden adiprene frenzy. I like both boost and adiprene and I guess have just seen a few limitations of boost, especially in making lighter models. adiprene rides more precise and sharp but not near as forgiving as boost and boost still holds up much longer than other midsole materials so Boost has it’s place for sure.

RE: Glide 4 and 5, yeah Glide 4 is lighter and softer feeling, but has stitched overlays…I like the Glide 5 upper better, but probably the Glide 4 midsole better.

aegis 2 looks interesting…3 not so much since it has similar outsole/midsole setup like Tempo 6 and Boston 4, which isn’t my favorite of adidas.

I had a chance to pick up some Boston 3s but they were a little too much $…I’ll still be keeping my eyes out for a pair though.

RE: XT 5, yeah it still has a unique place as the most road worthy trail shoe adidas has made and is quite protective for the weight. While not my favorite adidas trail shoe, I still use it and have an extra pair of them too since I wanted to have them available going forward.

David

Yeah speed laces on the regular version…not my favorite, but you can always take them off and adidas makes them where you don’t have to cut them to get them off which is nice. Trailmaker is definitely not going to be as good on the roads as the XT 5 (or XT Boost for that matter), but I like the looks of the design overall and it is differentiated enough from their other trail offerings to be of interest, plus the adiprene will offer a different feel too which is also nice. -David

trailmaker goretex looks like…speed laces!! does the regular version also have them? (i didn’t see it on the link.) from the outsole, looks like it may not be as versatile as the xt 5?