Comments on: This Week in Runblogging: 2/21–2/27 2014 https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Thu, 01 May 2014 02:18:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 By: Jake https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129602738 Thu, 01 May 2014 02:18:28 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129602738 In reply to Peter Larson.

Thank you very much for your help and a great blog!

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129602339 Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:34:23 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129602339 In reply to Jake.

If you want to try something a bit firmer, the Mirage is the “stability” alternative to the Kinvara.

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129602336 Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:33:47 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129602336 In reply to Jake.

I would be very surprised if a 3rd met stress fracture was linked to overpronation. It’s really hard to say whether the Kinvara or any other shoe was to blame, people get met stress fractures in all kinds of footwear, but I do think the risk may be elevated during transition into more minimal shoes, particularly things like the Vibram Fivefingers and Merrell Barefoot shoes. It could also simply have been that your training load placed stress on your feet that exceeded the capacity of the bones to recover and remodel in response to the stress being applied. I personally found the Kinvara 4 to be restrictive/tight in the forefoot, waiting to try the 5 still.

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By: Jake https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129602037 Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:32:44 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129602037 Actually, after reading your review of the 4 I am going to wait to see how the 5s are. Any other shoe recommendations? Thanks again.

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By: Jake https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129601998 Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:06:20 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129601998 In reply to Peter Larson.

So would you assume if I used the kinvara again, I would be relatively safe if I made a slow transition and increased my running slowly? The most miles and fastest I have run was in the Kinvara. Have you had good experience with the kinvara in terms of “over-pronation.” I have read some of your other articles and it seems to be a favorite shoe of yours. Thank you very much for your time and responses, it is greatly appreciated. I think I am looking at purchasing the kinvara 4 now.

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129601475 Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:23:43 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129601475 In reply to Jake.

OK, so my suspicion with a met stress fracture lies far more with the Merrells than the Kinvaras. In a very minimal shoe the forces at pushoff are more focal and can strain the mets as they bend, which In suspect is why we see met stress fractures as a common injury in a transition to a minimally cushioned shoe. The bones need time to adapt and strengthen. Combining speed with a very minimal shoe without adaptation can be a double whammy. The ST5 is plenty of shoe I think, but have not run in that one myself. Brooks flats tend to have more heel cushion and higher drop than other brands.

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By: Jake https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129600512 Wed, 30 Apr 2014 01:06:32 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129600512 In reply to Peter Larson.

Thanks a lot. It was my third metatarsal on my left foot. I will check out the mizunos. I loved the kinvaras and I forgot to mention that I had also run a race in merrell trail gloves for a race and some workouts which I think could have caused a large amount of stress. What is your experience with the Kinvaras? I have looked at the Brooks ST5, but am not sure if that would be enough shoe for it is a race flat? Thank you!

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129597275 Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:43:09 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129597275 In reply to Jake.

Where was your stress fracture located (which bone)? The Launch is a relatively soft shoe, so it may roll in a bit more than most, but only way to know for sure is to have someone film you running in them. You might look also at something like the Mizuno Sayonara which is also a lightweight trainer but is a firmer shoe.

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By: Jake https://runblogger.com/2014/04/this-week-in-runblogging-221227-2014.html#comment-1129596046 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 22:46:02 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3928#comment-1129596046 Hi, sorry this is off topic, I tried posting on the forum, but could not figure it out. I have been told that I over pronate, which is why i switched out of kinvaras after a stress fracture. I now have run in the pure cadence 1( which give me arch pain) and the asics gt2000(which just don’t work for me fit wise). I am thinking about the brooks launch, but am worried that it will increase my pronation because of one article recently stating that some neutral shoes increase pronation because they are meant to combat supination? I am asking you for help because all of your articles have made so much sense and are reasoned out. I will be running at the collegiate level next year and need a good shoe to consistently train. I am 5’11″ 140 lbs with a mid foot strike. Thank you so much for your help!

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