Comments on: Do You Pronate?: A Shoe Fitting Tale https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Sat, 18 Aug 2018 18:37:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 By: Sarah https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1130919570 Sat, 18 Aug 2018 18:37:42 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1130919570 I used to overpronate very badly. the heels of my shoes would get squished down, the rubber on the inner heels folding in so the shoes would lean at a crazy angle. This started back around 2000. I was sold “corrective” shoes which never really solved it. Those would get crooked too, some within a month and others in a week. Not only were they really expensive but often I would be walking on the midsole within a month or two! I was not happy!! I felt cheated too. The store had my money and I had shoes I could not wear. I could not walk miles if my ankle was at some crazy angle because the heel if the shoe had caved in.

So I started to do my own research, both in printed books and online. I read about minimal shoes and barefoot running. Now I don’t run. I walk. But I can do a half marathon easily. So I found the flattest most minimal shoes I could. I had to correct my walking. I realized my big toe was never touching the ground! I think wearing modern shoes had goofed up my feet somehow. So I had been walking around for years with my big toe and the area right behind it up in the air. I think it’s the shoe structure? So it took all summer to slowly correct my walking.

Now I’m walking straight in my minimal shoes. They are just cheap kids shoes from Payless. I’ve lost a lot of weight over the years and my foot has gone down to a AA width…makes it very hard to find anything that fits! Which is very frustrating!!

Last week I tried on a pair of Sketchers GoWalk. I wanted to see if I would overpronate. Yep! Just walking up and back in the store a little bit out creases in the rubber at the inner heel of the shoe. I guess I cannot ever wear modern built up shoes anymore…yet these are the kind that most shoe stores sell.

I have a very very hard time finding winter boots that fit and don’t go crooked due to how they are made.

I used to have low arches, now they are the neutral type.

I don’t know if anyone will read this, but a lot of it seems to be caused by shoe design?

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By: Brad Patterson https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1130493028 Thu, 06 Oct 2016 13:07:15 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1130493028 Hey Pete,

I realize this is an older post, but I had to look it up again to read your thoughts on the subject. I had a REALLY bad experience at a local running specialty store (Gazelle Sports) last night with my 13 year old daughter, which tells me that this method of shoe fitting is sadly in full effect.

My daughter has been running for 3 years in “big box model” shoes by brands like New Balance and others, basic “neutral” style shoes. I took her to a REAL running store so we could get her a proper pair of running shoes. This was after spending about an hour at a DSG across town trying on a whole bunch of different shoes and narrowing her favorite (of the models that DSG carried) down to the Peg 33. I was hoping to have her try on a few models that DSG did not carry.

So we walked into the store and looked at their shoe wall. I pointed out the Kinvara 7 as well as the Zante as shoes that she should try on. The salesperson came up and I asked for a size 10 in each of the shoes. She said that she first wanted to measure my daughters feet and find out what style of shoes were right. She determined the size and then had my daughter walk back and forth about 10 feet, she didn’t even ask my daughter to jog in the store. After some viewing from behind, this clerk said that my daughter pronates and needs support shoes. I tried my best to bite my tongue and figured it wouldn’t hurt to try on a few other models. So she went in the back and came out with the NB Vongo, the Nike Structure, and the Brooks Ravenna. My daughter tried all of them on and didn’t really love any of them.

I attempted to ask for the K7 and the Zante again, and the clerk said that my daughter needs the support or she will have injuries in the future. I explained to her that my daughter had been running in neutral shoes for 3 years w/o any problems and that those “injuries” can be avoided by proper leg/hip/glute strength work. She just looked at my blankly like she had no idea what I was talking about.

Finally, she begrudgingly went in the back and fetched a Peg 33 for my daughter to compare side by side with the Structure. By this time, we had spent 45 minutes wasting time trying on shoes that we weren’t interested in so I told her it was getting late and we needed to go. It was highly frustrating and I was surprised that this local running specialty store would do this, but it makes me not want to go back there again.

I just wish their was some way to get these running store employees the proper education about running gait and how shoes fit into the picture. Maybe I should send them a copy of your book!

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By: Reynolds https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1130381883 Sat, 13 Feb 2016 12:29:36 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1130381883 I actually twist my foot inward to land on the first metatarsal. But I have no wear under the first (big) toe; all the wear on the front of the shoe is under the second, third and fourth toes. So I seem to be twisting laterally, after my foot contact. This is opposite to pronation. It all seems very strange.

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By: Does Pronation Matter? | SKORA https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1130362157 Thu, 03 Dec 2015 02:42:25 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1130362157 […] may also like: Do You Pronate? Over-Pronation is not Really Your Problem Prescribing Running Shoes Based on Arch Height […]

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By: Samantha https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1130266469 Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:14:55 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1130266469 In reply to Heather.

YES, this post x10.

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By: Elizabeth https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1129876580 Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:05:10 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1129876580 In reply to Peter Larson.

For the past few years I’ve been wearing the
the Newton Motion 2011’s. My left knee gets sore when I run too fast down hill and my right foot has plantar fasciitis, off and on.

Thanks for your advice!!!

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1129875754 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:09:59 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1129875754 In reply to Elizabeth.

Have you had any injury issue in the Newton’s? Which specific pair/model do you have.

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By: Elizabeth https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1129874358 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:59:19 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1129874358 In reply to Peter Larson.

Peter,
I’m relatively new to running and was told I over pronate and directed to wear x,y, or z shoes. I wore them and had a lot of injuries. I switched to Newton’s. They helped me switch from heel running to mid-foot running. I’d like to try some other shoes, but I have no idea what to purchase. I don’t want to go to a running store. How do I really know what shoes I should be running in?

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By: Jami https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1129619667 Fri, 09 May 2014 01:35:13 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1129619667 Great blog post!! I too have mild pronation, a little more on one foot from a sprained ankle that I haven’t strengthened back completely. However, I find that a neutral shoe is the only way to go for me. The more stability that is added, the more effects my gait and I end up with pains in my hips and knees.

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By: Adam Kelly, ATC https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1129600688 Wed, 30 Apr 2014 03:20:57 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1129600688 In reply to Adam Kelly, ATC.

Post*

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By: Adam Kelly, ATC https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1129600685 Wed, 30 Apr 2014 03:20:03 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1129600685 Great Poster, Pete!

Conversations like this make me cringe too! It really grinds my gears when people look at something pronation in isolation as well! Pronation could literally be a symptom of a mobility issue at the ankle via decreased ankle dorsiflexion. As a result of insufficient ROM there my foot will be obliged to pronate and thus potentially cause a knee valgus moment. However, this is a mobility issue and people often try to treat it using an orthotic or “special” shoe to control motion when we need more motion! Don’t bring a stability fix to a mobility problem!

Best,

Adam Kelly, ATC

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By: Jake https://runblogger.com/2014/04/do-you-pronate-a-shoe-fitting-tale.html#comment-1129595915 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 20:42:22 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=3709#comment-1129595915 In reply to Peter Larson.

Hi, my name is Jake, I tried posting on the forum, but could not figure it out. I have been told that I over pronate, which is why i switched out of kinvaras after a stress fracture. I now have run in the pure cadence 1( which give me arch pain) and the asics gt2000(which just don’t work for me fit wise). I am thinking about the brooks launch, but am worried that it will increase my pronation because of one article recently stating that some neutral shoes increase pronation because they are meant to combat supination? I am asking you for help because all of your articles have made so much sense and are reasoned out. I will be running at the collegiate level next year and need a good shoe to consistently train. I am 5’11” 140 lbs with a midfoot strike. Thank you so much for your help!

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