Comments on: Do Minimalist Shoes Increase Injury Risk?: Merry Christmas Vibram https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:48:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 By: Mo S https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129672972 Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:48:44 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129672972 Great study! It would be interesting to quantify the data by age group and injury history etc.

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129484862 Mon, 13 Jan 2014 03:03:12 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129484862 In reply to Joe Warne.

Good points. I was really pretty surprised by how well the Vibram group did in comparison especially since it was a major change from their norm.

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By: Joe Warne https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129482205 Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:43:14 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129482205 Hi Pete,
Havent read the study yet, have been away, but I think there is an interesting aspect here with the amount of previous experience in each type of shoe. Considering that the move to minimalism was a novel one for these subjects, we can make the assumption that the majority of these subjects who were injured in the different shoes were injured due to CHANGE. That is of-course an assumption, but it would appear to make sense. For the pegasus group however, this shoe condition could be considered the “norm” (despite possible small changes in shoe design), and any injuries in this group cannot be associated with such a large change, but instead to other factors. Considering this was the condition that so closely resembled their previous 5 years of running experience, it seems to be a very high injury rate that is hard to just explain due to the race preparation – I look forward to reading the paper.

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By: Carol Adam https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129471785 Wed, 01 Jan 2014 18:14:27 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129471785 Excellent review! I’ve gone the minimalist route and never had a problem, but I hate the look of the Vibram FiveFingers!

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129471291 Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:00:25 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129471291 In reply to Michael.

I agree, this blog wouldn’t be what it has become if Chris had not written that book. I still like the phrase.

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129471289 Tue, 31 Dec 2013 23:59:47 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129471289 In reply to bw.

I agree, but it would be very difficult to get a big enough sample and such a study would be very expensive.

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129471288 Tue, 31 Dec 2013 23:59:05 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129471288 In reply to Tommyh.

Ramp up in training mileage in preparation for a race would be my guess.

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By: Tommyh https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129471257 Tue, 31 Dec 2013 22:50:47 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129471257 In reply to Peter Larson.

Yes, I would actually say the pegasus Group differs from the other groups. They run in what they should be used to and are not transitioning. So why do they get hurt?

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By: Adam Kelly, ATC https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129471052 Tue, 31 Dec 2013 15:13:26 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129471052 Peter,

Another quality post. I forgot to comment on this back when you first published it! Another piece of evidence that its not so much about the shoe thats on the foot as it is the foot in the shoe. By foot I am implicating the entire body…neuromuscularskeletal…circulatory…psychosocial…Each person’s formula and composition is unique and contribute in a novel fashion to each specific injury.

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By: bw https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129470459 Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:38:11 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129470459 I would like to see a study using other brands of shoes that tries to see an average across several brands of cushioned, minimalist and in-between shoes. That way you can make assessments of type of shoe rather than specific models.

It is possible that the Nike Frees are just bad shoes and so they had a higher injury rate.

I had a pair of Nike Free and the shape of the shoe seemed to make it difficult for me to run either with landing on my heel or on the front of my foot. It may be because I have relatively flat feet but it seemed there was too much cushion on the arch and so all the impact from each step was focused there. It eventually caused a foot injury and ended switching to a more minimalist shoe and haven’t had any problems since.

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By: Michael https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129469931 Mon, 30 Dec 2013 02:28:14 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129469931 In reply to Mike.

I still like that phrase. It was that book that started me thinking that there had to be a better way. I know everyone seems to like to move onto something new and cool, and forget anything old, but that book is still good, even if it is a few years old now. I’ve had to accept the move away from barefoot/minimalism recently, because few people had the patience to get it, but I’m still a true believer. I see the same big old trainers and even Hokas in 5ks, but until I see elites wearing Hokas in the 5000 and 10000 m, I’ll stick with flats and minimal shoes most of the time. Even if no one is exactly “born to run” it sure can feel like you were if it’s fun and doesn’t hurt.

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/12/do-minimalist-shoes-increase-injury-risk-merry-christmas-vibram.html#comment-1129469198 Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:43:51 +0000 http://runblogger.com/?p=2623#comment-1129469198 In reply to Mario Caron.

But the surprising thing here is that the Vibram group did not experience an increased injury risk even though this was a transition from a traditional to a very minimal shoe.

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