Comments on: Mizuno Wave Sayonara Running Shoe Review https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Sun, 31 Aug 2014 18:33:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129824905 Sun, 31 Aug 2014 18:33:41 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129824905 In reply to speedy_sam.

I have reviewed the Peg 31 here: https://runblogger.com/2014/06/nike-zoom-pegasus-31-running-shoe-review.html. Much softer, more cushioned than the Sayonara. I prefer the Peg personally between the two.

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By: speedy_sam https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129820613 Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:12:28 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129820613 Hey Pete.

Just a quick inquiry about some shoes… I’ve had a lot of success with the Sayonaras and previously the Elixirs… However, I’m intrigued by the Zoom Pegasus 31s. I’m looking for something that has a bit more longevity that can handle a bit higher mileage, without getting me hurt. What do you think? Ever tried the Peg. 31’s?

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By: Gary https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129787524 Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:45:46 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129787524 I researched the pants off these shoes before buying a pair and I couldn’t be happier with my decision. They’re hands down (feet down?) the best shoes I’ve run in, ever. They’re flexible (after a few runs), light, grippy (on road) and surprisingly durable. The nubby forefoot outsole area is still in tact and hasn’t showed any signs of peeling. I land on the outside my midfoot and the rubber in that area still hasn’t worn through. I’ve done about 1300km’s on them and they’re still holding up well, although technically should be replaced.

They’re great for anything up to a marathon but I found the soles of my feet started to ache once I entered the ultra distance realm. I ran the Comrades marathon (90k) in them and suffered. That might not have anything to do with the shoes, it could just be my lack of ultra distance experience, but still worth considering. Otherwise, the U4ic cushioning is fantastic.

I wouldn’t recommend using them for rocky, technical trail runs. I tried them out on a run recently and they got pretty beat up. They have zero grip on wet grass, especially when it’s on a slope or in muddy areas and they offer very little under-foot protection from pointy rocks. The upper material looks like it’s been sand blasted from brushing past rocks and is filthy from mud despite numerous cleaning sessions. It doesn’t really bother me but if you’re fussy about shoe cleanliness, then make sure you avoid mud. The exposed foam in the arch area took a battering and looked like a dogs chew toy after the run. Having said that, they work fine on jeep track and non-technical trail, just watch out for those sneaky stones.

Besides that, I’ve knocked my 5k PB down by about a minute since buying the Sayonara’s. It might be psychological or it might be the shoes, but either way they feel fast.
All in all I’ve had a fantastic experience with the Sayonara’s and will definitely be buying a follow up pair.

Thanks for the review – it helped a lot!

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129715541 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 21:52:40 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129715541 In reply to Steven.

Brad Patterson wrote the review, not me. This was a guest review, I just commented on it with my own feelings about the shoe.

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By: Steven https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129710833 Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:18:52 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129710833 Peter,
Really? After all of those miles and your overwhelmingly positive review, you decided that you don’t like these?

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129682170 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 12:53:04 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129682170 In reply to Jeremy.

I found the Sayonara to be really firm along the outer margin, didn’t work for me for that reason.

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By: Jeremy https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129681437 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 04:11:13 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129681437 Just moved on from the wave exlior to the sayonara model. I must say that I was hoping for an easier transition, as ive been told that the sayonara model is the logical replacement for the exlior.

Attemped to go for two short runs and ive noticed sore points on the outer side of feet. Almost to a point where ive stopped to take my shoes off.

I’m assuming this is a sign that the sayanora isnt the right fit for me.

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By: Brian https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129677164 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 07:45:07 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129677164 Hi, bought a pair of sayonara a couple of weeks ago and have been for 4 runs. After 2 ok runs I found the tops of both of my feet were in pain and bruised, I have been running for years at a reasonable level(2.40 marathon) and never experienced anything like this. I bought these as a high mileage shoe for marathon training but I don’t think I will be able to put these shoes on my feet again. I also found them pretty rigid in the forefoot. I have tried loosening the laces, lacing differently but not had any luck. I’m pretty gutted, these shoes aren’t for me.

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129577877 Sun, 13 Apr 2014 14:32:18 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129577877 In reply to Ian Carrico.

Very different shoes. The Sayonara has a firm, rigid heel, and is a stiffer shoe. The Free feels silent when you run, super flexible. I like running in the Free, the Sayonara did not work at all for me.

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By: Ian Carrico https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129577246 Sat, 12 Apr 2014 23:38:10 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129577246 Was wondering what your opinion is on the difference of cushioning between the sayonara and the nike free 5.0. Stack heights are nearly the same according to running warehouse. Should this mean that the “feel” is about the same, especially in the forefoot??

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By: Peter Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129484788 Mon, 13 Jan 2014 01:03:40 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129484788 In reply to Joel.

Sayonara is light but also a pretty firm shoe. Haven’t run in the Ghost so can’t compare directly.

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By: Joel https://runblogger.com/2013/09/mizuno-wave-sayonara-running-shoe-review.html#comment-1129484775 Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:29:27 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=6#comment-1129484775 I currently run in Brooks Ghost for everyday road work. I supinate so neutral is best for me. The Ghosts are nice but a shade firm and maybe a touch heavy. How might these compare?

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