All 3 of these shoes are good but none of them is perfect. The Instinct 1.5 has an awesome shape and there is NO other shoe that allows my foot to relax and spread like the Instinct 1.5 does. The zero drop combined with foot shaped last makes for an awesome run. However as the miles racked up, the cushioning quickly went down. The soles are now like a solid piece of thick, flat, hard rubber.

The Ones are a great shape and zero drop but never did come with any cushioning. They are a good shoe to teach proper form and win races but they do not have cushioning and were never designed to. They are minimalist by design yet with protection.

The Torins have great cushioning and you can really put down the miles however the Torins lost that awesome toe box and foot shape of the Instinct 1.5. The Torins make the outside of my foot, near the toes hurt. There is just not the same room as the Instinct 1.5. Close but not the same.

I really hope the new Olympus or new Instinct 2.0 has the great shape and comfort of the previous Instinct 1.5 yet with all the cushioning of the Torin. This would make the perfect shoe.

Does anybody have an opinion as to which 1 of these new shoes will be better from me? The Olympus or the Instinct 2.0? They are both on backorder but I am going to place a pre order as soon as I decide which 1 to try.

Thanks,
Jeff Colorado

don’t mean to come off as some guy who doesn’t like change only believes in one way only but i just don’t think people really need all THAT much under their foot

what really matters to me is zero drop, and shape of foot..at least that should still be a direction as cushioning and stack heights will probably always be fluctuating like crazy

$110, 8.8 oz (men’s size 9), 4mm heel-toe drop. A lightweight neutral trainer built on a new midsole foam called “Fresh Foam” that offers varying levels of structure and flexibility based on the concave and convex sidewall indentations and specific foot strike patterns of a runner.

I noticed that too, I hope it’s just the photo angle that makes it look narrow.
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i knew what you meant sorry lol,

though the body does beg to differ on the whatever you want…

heck, my friend got a massive bruise on his foot for stepping on an acorn despite wearing traditional trainers, switched him to barefoot shoes, no problems,

i understand that everyone is different, but not THAT different unless a deformity or disease is present

i also understand that a lot of these new hoka-like shoes are still not as thick as some traditional trainers

but i still feel that cushioning needs to stop and something else needs to happen, since just more rubber or whatever adds plenty of weight and that’s something to avoid too

i’m just not for cushioning…i’m trying to come up with stuff, but i’m no scientist :P

No not the insole, I’m talking about the heights of the midsole making everything level the heel, the arch, and the forefoot. The only shoes that do this are canvas shoes like vans or converse. Sure it would take getting used too but it no different from moving from traditional to today’s minimal shoes. But this would be a more natural way of making a shoe. We were born to run without shoes, so if I wanted to protect my foot all I need is a layer cushioning on top of the foot, so different heights of cushioning are not needed for a forefoot striker. So if the heel or arch is higher then the forefoot, you have to lean in more (avoid the back of the shoe) in order to land on your forefoot. If the shoe was even throughout then you don’t have to make a conscious effort to land on you forefoot, this make forefoot running easier and more natural. Everyone has different preferences, and needs for a shoe, If you need to heel strike then you buy a shoe with a well cushioned heel. But you are right, toe shoes and barefoot style like vivobarefoot tend not to have an higher arch, but they don’t offer any cushioning.

You can feel the softness just walking in it. Jeff Dengate reports here that RW shoe lab found the Energy to be exceptionally soft in the heel and also the forefoot, heel softer than the Brooks Glycerine: https://www.facebook.com/group…

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