Yeah it was so strange…I had less than 100 miles on them and they just started unraveling. Really like the width, my first decent shoe was the Brooks Purecadence and when they moved to the Purecadence 2 they narrowed the toe box. I got really bad pinched toe issues in those.

Glad the 2.0 seems to be holding up OK, how many miles does she have on them? I think I’m gonna place an order for those today….

Have heard quite a few complaints about the toebox durability in the 1.5, have not heard a lot about the 2.0. MY wife has a pair and they seem to be holding up OK.

My main concern is the durability of the material. The toe box has a woven material that completely fell apart and my big toe popped through my left shoe. Never had an issue like this with Brooks shoes.

However, the toe box width is excellent, and despite the durability issues I”m hoping ordering a 1/2 size bigger of the 2.0 will help. Anyone else have issues like this?

I own a pair of Altra’s Instinct 2 and am a big fan. The heel cup and toe guard are more of a rubber than plastic. Although they probably add a minimal amount of weight, they do offer extra protection and increase durability of the upper.

Timothy–have you had the same issue as everybody else with the mesh tearing on the 1.5? I contacted Altra directly and they said they had updated the mesh to keep this from happening, so I’m just curious whether or not the update actually works in the real world.

yes, this is what confuses me too

i mean i get there’s a market for cushioning…cause people still buy it

but why is there no push to lessen it and keep going in the right direction…

oh right…$$$$

Aha, altra insoles here we come. Looking forward to the review.

I am a walker ..not a runner …so my perspective may be a bit different, but I was not concerned with stiffness. Cushioning was not an issue for me. Durability of the sole material could be improved, but otherwise I can walk in all conditions with these the way they are (including a ripped toenail ..try that with a narrow toebox)

Good news…maybe my favorite shoe will now be sold at closeout prices

That’s my thought, now right in between the Torin and Provision. Guess we’ll see how much difference 3mm makes. MY worry is less flex, but that can be overcome with sole grooves I suppose.

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the thing is increasing stack heights…i’m sure they could have at least swapped 3mm instead of adding 3mm…