Comments on: Hoka Kailua Tarmac Review by George Harris https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-981493510 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-981493510 In reply to Roger Dudek.

Nope, I have no advertising relationship with Hoka, in fact I have no direct contact with the company as yet. I’ve only even run in the Hokas myself once. My interest is in helping people find shoes that let them achieve their running goals, and for some people Hokas are the answer to that. For one example, my own wife has been able to run pain free for several months now thanks to these shoes. She tried minimal and it did not work for her. If I ever become overly dogmatic in my beliefs about footwear in the absence of compelling evidence that one style is best for all then I’ve failed to do my job well.
I will say I had the same attitude about these shoes just a few months ago, but I know to many people who have found benefit from running in them to close my mind to them as an option.
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By: Seth Zeigler https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-983165708 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-983165708 After trying a pair of Hoka on this past weekend in Lake Placid (was instantly intrigued in a few strides), and then reading other’s accounts of them (including Dan Empfield’s interesting take) I decided to try them for myself. I’ve obviously not logged many miles in them yet as they’re a couple days old, but my first impressions are extremely favorable. And watching the Lake Placid Ironman run, looking to see who was wearing Hoka, it was a variety of body types- but mostly skinny people- (as the majority of people doing IMLP are in excellent shape.)

The minimalist movement has definitely spawned some holier-than-thou attitudes towards non-minimalist shoes. I also thought they looked a little crazy when I first saw them, but reserved judgement until trying them. Glad I kept an open mind. I think that the more people that try them, the more people are going to realize that Hoka is really on to something- for a wide variety of runners….size, age, distance, etc…

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-984581929 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-984581929 In reply to Adam Lawrence.

I’m loving the Pearl Izumi EM Road N1 – should have a review up soon.

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By: Nick Bradley https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-981633068 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-981633068 I’ve got a pair of these. And the Rapa Nui’s. I think both reviews are spot on. They are certainly more responsive than some of the traditional Hoka’s … but also less cushioned. It’s pretty noticeable. I ran the Paris Marathon in the Kailua’s. Comrades in the Bondi. Both decent choices for me considering the distances. One comment on fit – I find the Kailua runs large vs. the Bondi 2. I wear a US12.5 in the Bondi 2 and US12 in the Kailua and Rapa Nui.

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By: Nick Bradley https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-984915246 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-984915246 In reply to Pete Larson.

Pete, how are you finding the sizing of the Road N1 say vs. the Kinvara or the Brooks Pure Flow/Cadence? Thanks.

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By: Gary Whorwood https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-981767987 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-981767987 The whole world of running shoes just seems to be getting more and more complicated every day with no straight answer to any questions. Is there really no other solution other than “run in every shoe in the world then choose the one that suited you best”? I now feel like I have to try Hokas to see if they are better than my Mizunos.

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By: StephenB https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-981883970 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-981883970 In reply to Roger Dudek.

If the question is can you run with good form in these shoes, the answer is yes. I had great success in my trail 50k with them. They keep you from getting beat up on long runs too. I wouldn’t race a marathon in them, but for long runs or trails my Bondi Bs work great.

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By: Adam Lawrence https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-982707014 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-982707014 In reply to Pete Larson.

It’s also worth noting that they look more ridiculous than they are, thanks to the way the mid-sole comes up around the upper. The stack-height on these is 21/26. That’s quite normal for a well-cushioned shoe, comparable to a Saucony Peregrine or Pearl Izumi N2. It’s actually lower to the ground overall than a Brooks Cascadia or a New Balance 1210. I’m no big fan of Hokas because of the price and their awful uppers and toe boxes, but their stack heights aren’t quite as absurd as they initially appear. Overall, I think everyone who runs long, hard miles has come to realize that the “all cushioning is bad for you” paradigm is silly and dangerous. Higher stack heights do take some getting used to, and initially make me more likely to trip and turn my ankle, but that’s not the same as cushioning being bad for you in and of itself. Rather, the higher stack height is an unfortunate byproduct of the increased cushioning. On a separate topic, Pete: I wonder if you’ll have a chance to weigh in on the exaggerated toe spring/ rocker “technologies” that are in Hokas, Pearl Izumis, Scott Shoes, and a few others now. It seems like another new trend that flies in the face of the basic tenants of “minimalism” but may offer advantages to many people, including top runners.

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By: Sam https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-985709640 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-985709640 In reply to Pete Larson.

Loving the Trail M2 myself. Contacted PI to see if they had plans for a Road M1 or M2, as I need the higher density foam for pronation control. Unfortunately no clues from them on lighter road stability shoes. Road M3 and H3 are too stiff and bulky IMO.

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-984582730 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-984582730 In reply to Sam.

My wife has the same issue with the Bondi B – we’re trying a half size up to see if it helps. The EVA lip is a problem and the upper tore right along it.

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By: bob baks https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-983351373 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-983351373 In reply to bob baks.

Haha. It looks like Altra is coming out with their own maximal offering, the Olympus. I actually like the way the Hokas look better, but would be willing to give either shoe a try-not that I run enough to ever need that kind of protection.

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By: Nick Bradley https://runblogger.com/2013/07/hoka-kailua-tarmac-review-by-george.html#comment-984872538 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=30#comment-984872538 In reply to Clifford Clark.

Yep! Keeping in pretty good shape for my age :-) Thought best to change the pic!

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