Comments on: Race Recap: New PR at the Smuttynose Rockfest Half Marathon! https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.12 By: Dave https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-669567496 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-669567496 In reply to Pete Larson.

My point is that your form is part of your training. Saying that training is the most important factor and NOT form is ridiculous – because form is a part of training. Are you trying to say “the WORKOUTS completed are the most important factor in racing success?”

Using the umbrella term “training” is vague and unhelpful because again, a LOT of things fall under the category of training. Form, mileage, recovery, workouts, stretching, weights is ALL training.

What do you mean specifically by “training” and how is form not a part of it?

]]> By: Indy M. https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-669100301 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-669100301 “
I had trained as hard for this race as any I’ve ever run, and was pushed constantly by my coach Caleb Masland (check him out here, and here’s another post I wrote about working with Caleb – he trained 3 of us to new PR’s yesterday!)

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Congratulations!

I am training for a PR and goal of 1:54 ( I am 60+) coming up end of October.
Quick question:

Do you think you could have achieved similar results with ‘self coaching” ? Just curious.

Thanks for all the hard work.

Indy M.
Sunnyvale, CA.

]]> By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668693533 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668693533 In reply to Samuel Hartpence.

Isn’t that always the case :)

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]]> By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-669677646 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-669677646 In reply to Dave.

Yes, by training I was referring to the workouts put in. I could have great shoes and perfect form, but if I did not do the necessary workouts the race results would not follow. Seems to me like you’re just creating a semantic argument about the word training. You can define it however you like, but I suspect most people know what I mean when I say training.

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]]> By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668661585 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668661585 In reply to Robert Osfield.

I’m kind of at a crossroads right now – debating whether to push hard for a marathon PR next year or move onto the ultra distances and spend more time on trails. Tough call…

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]]> By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668813399 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668813399 In reply to Jeremy.

Thanks Jeremy – I agree, the mileage is what I need – I’ve only run over 50 miles in a week twice in my life. Up that a bit and take off about ten more pounds of body fat (back to high-school weight) and I think I can do it. Contemplating…

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]]> By: Ewen Thompson https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668508507 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668508507 Good race Pete. 2 minutes is quite a slice off your previous best. You’ve run a 10k PB en route too.

I think you’re close enough to consider doing the training for a sub-3 marathon. 1:27 for the half is not quite there, although I do know one bloke who ran his best half in 1:27 then backed up a few months later to run 2:59 (he was running 100 mile weeks though – at 60 years of age). If your half came down to 1:24-5 I’d say you’re there (for sub-3). Anyway, you’re there for a big marathon PB so yes, hang onto that fitness over winter!

]]> By: Jeremy https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668871773 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668871773 In reply to Pete Larson.

Up your mileage and the weight will come off without you even thinking about it-happened to me…

]]> By: Samuel Hartpence https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668676702 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668676702 All of my PR races have an astrick that states that I felt that I could have gone faster.

]]> By: Robert Osfield https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668469855 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668469855 Great to hear of your big PR, It’s great when you know that you are in good shape and it’s down to getting the execution right on the day, then you actually go ahead a run a perfect race. Job done! ;-)

Back at the end of August I ran a 10k knowing that I was in the shape to go sub 40min, so it was a matter keeping ones nerve and executing what I knew I was capable of. I came away with a one minute PR and a time of 39:36, cuffed to bits with it, no heroics on the day – just clinical putting down what I knew I was capable of.

Curiously race calculators would suggest that I should be good for a 1:27 marathon time too so it looks like we are pretty similar shape so we’d probably have a good 1:1 race.

The race calculators also suggest that I’m not far off 3 hour form, and if I actually get over injury niggles and put in some specific training it should be possible to put away a 3 hour marathon.

Whether I ever actually try for it is another thing altogether, I love trail running and ultras far more than I like road racing. I just see roads as means to an end – it’s how what you have to cross to get to the trails!

Well done, bask in the glory!!

]]> By: Rachel https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668861803 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668861803 I think if you don’t continue on to trying to run a sub-3 marathon, you’ll always wonder whether you could do it. You’ve already put in the work for the half, and I think it’s definitely worth it to continue and see what you can do.

Congratulations on the PR, by the way.

]]> By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/10/race-recap-new-pr-at-smuttynose.html#comment-668706941 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=226#comment-668706941 In reply to Dave.

I don’t need to do a scientific study to know why I managed to run a PR at this race…saying it was because of my shoes or my form would be ridiculous since those variables have been held far more constant than my training over the past few years. My training is what has changed.

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