Comments on: Mizuno Be: Show Us the Data https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.12 By: sam hartpence https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-696474112 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-696474112 I could send you a pair if you are interested…

]]> By: Kurt https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-697115143 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-697115143 In reply to Lee-Manuel Gagnon.

I received a pair for testing, too. I have a neuroma – which is irritated by the shoe, so I haven’t worn them much at all.

However, the shoe is flat and has a nice wide toe box. If it didn’t have that ridiculous step, it would be a pretty nice shoe to wear!

Did you get the insole out?

]]> By: Greg Strosaker https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-696217872 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-696217872 Yes Pete, but they have a theory, dammit!

]]> By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-724945175 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-724945175 In reply to Geoff Alonso.

Thanks for sharing!

]]> By: Jeff Giedt https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-697402922 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-697402922 Regardless of the benefit truth, they have nailed one heck of a good story to tell about the design history and its modern application. Lots of marketing mileage available there.

]]> By: Geoff Alonso https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-724904255 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-724904255 I am in the test group for these. It’s an interesting feel. I could never put a firm number on its effect as I am relatively new to running so improvements could be due to any number of factors not just the shoe. However, i will say I took a few weeks off from wearing them and I felt like I wasn’t making the same strides I was while wearing them. Then, after my hiatus I felt like I was increasing my pace of improvement again. Is this a mental thing? I dunno. Is that valuable in its own right? Maybe. At least for someone in the early stages of their running lives sure. For truly seasoned runner, they may know better. I would agree, true numbers should be there, but there is something to also thinkng that it may help as well. In my opinion anyways.

]]> By: Geoff Alonso https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-725133888 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-725133888 In reply to Pete Larson.

And I guess I should also say, they are comfortable as all get up after a long run or a race. And I am not sure there is a scientific number for that.

]]> By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-696497767 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-696497767 In reply to sam hartpence.

Curious what are your thoughts on the shoe? I’m not discounting that they could work, just would like some data to back up the marketing.

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]]> By: Robert Osfield https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-697018987 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-697018987 I came away from the marketing technobabble that attempts to justify the step in the insole with the impression that this shoe manufacture, like too many others, fundamentally doesn’t understand the basics of biomechanics or simply doesn’t care.

Undercutting the toes on the insole doesn’t increase stability, it reduces it and reduces the muscle activity that would use it for stability.

The Waraji sandals that they claim they were inspired from are fundamentally different as these old sandals allow the toes to engage directly with the ground once the foot is near too off allow better grip and greater flexibility than might be achieved with stiff sandles that go all the way under the toes. The undercut on the Waraji is basically an adaptation to avoid the pitfalls of a stiff sole interfering with normal foot mechanics. What would have been more effective for the Samuri would have been to ditch the sandals completely as I’m sure they often would have done.

So to sum up, yet another case of bullshit design and marketing that clearly demonstrates a shoe manufactures total ineptitude and disregard of biomechics and the cynical ability market any old crap to unsuspecting buyers.

Now remove the dumb insoles and associated marketing and the shoes might be actually perfectly reasonable footwear ;-)

]]> By: Guest https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-696655294 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-696655294 When will they be available in the USA?

]]> By: James https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-698439363 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-698439363 I wonder how much that effect they’re going for is rendered useless by the toe spring

]]> By: Julian https://runblogger.com/2012/10/mizuno-be-show-us-data.html#comment-696434889 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=205#comment-696434889 They sure are putting a lot of marketing behind a non-running shoe, is there a going to be a similar shoe for running?

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