Comments on: My Unexpected Connection to The Kip Litton Marathon Fraud Story https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.12 By: J-Rock https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-638438660 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-638438660 More evidence! Great (non) find. I just came across that article on Litton last week. I wonder if he trains with Paul Ryan?

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By: Jim Hansen https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-638306053 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-638306053 I had previously wondered if you had video of him during the race. I guess not. Here is my earlier blog post on Kip and the Manchester Marathon:
http://recoveryourstride.blogs

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By: Corey https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-639782938 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-639782938 O fcourse, the thing to remember here is that this guy was capable of cheating because he is a good runner. If the article is correct,he ran a legit sub 3hr marathon and several close to that. He didn’t need to cheat much on the subsequent races to hit sub 3hr. This situation is analogous to “A-students” cheating on exams—they don’t need to do it, but nobody will usually notice.

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By: PurdueMatt https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-639866664 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-639866664 Just finished the New Yorker article. Wow, what a dishonest jackass that guy is. Scamming people for contributions to cystic fibrosis and marathon cheating. So strange that he would travel and go to so much trouble just to cheat, how rewarding is that? But, I guess if the donations are flowing into your paypal account and you have no moral compass it might be worth it.

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By: William W Quick https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-654500904 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-654500904 I’ve assembled a webpage detailing all the stories about Dr. Litton that I can locate, at
http://worldrecordrun.com/

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By: WRSI https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-700273199 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-700273199 In reply to Corey.

The New Yorker makes it clear that Litton’s faking is nowhere near being limited to the literal cutting of corners in the course of a race. The guy routinely shows up wearing different clothing at the starts and finishes of races, for whatever reasons to do with his methods for beating chip systems. The lies come in layers, here, but it’s seriously not at all clear that he can run a respectable marathon, or even that he could finish one in *any* time at some point.

I mean, as the article tells us, Litton has eventually admitted to *making up* the entire “Western Wyoming” marathon in which he made the mistake of assigning himself the winning time. He made up the entire race, including a field of a couple of dozen other names — names that never appeared in any other marathons, but for several of which someone did up profiles on amateur athletic sites. The Web site associated with that race was run off the same servers as the ones for his dental practice and Litton’s own “world record runs” site. This is faking on a level that takes a large amount of work. It’s not on the level of looking for where the course might allow a wrong turn. It’s way, way past that.

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By: Dave https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-639390539 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-639390539 I am friends with Mike McGrath (the former Haverford coach mentioned in the article) and he filled me in on the Kip Litton saga last year. It’s a bizarro story, and solving the mystery is Mike’s white whale. I wonder if the New Yorker article will lead people to his photograph, and perhaps trigger some memories of seeing this guy heading on or off course?

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By: Kyle Strode https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-638983274 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-638983274 Great work connecting the dots. I’m guessing that you were probably extremely close to uncovering the massive hoax yourself and could have scooped everyone had you not been focusing on the more noble enterprise of conducting your research project! Well-done, and thanks for the excellent shoe advice and great links over the past few years.

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By: Yooj https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-666626964 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-666626964 Hypothesis: Kip Litton authored this post.

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By: Will Hoyer https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-639006126 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-639006126 In reply to Kyle Strode.

Great article about Litton. Funny to see my college Analytical Chem prof’s name in the article and then run across it on this site, too. Hope all is well in Montana! And I agree with Dr Strode… lots of great shoe advice here!

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By: Steve Geller https://runblogger.com/2012/09/my-unexpected-connection-to-kip-litton.html#comment-647141088 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=248#comment-647141088 Litton undoubtedly cheated, but just for the sake of being correct, he has not “supposedly made a living out of cheating his way to sub-3:00 finishes”. He’s made a habit out of it, sure. But there’s no way he collected enough prize money to support himself. The money for his finishes, even if they were legit, would be meager at best.

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