Comments on: Saucony Hattori LC Lace-Up Review – A Massively Improved Update to Saucony’s First Zero Drop Shoe

By: Pete Larson

Pete Larson — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Sam.

Excellent idea, I'll have to try it!

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By: Luis Andés Olmedo

Luis Andés Olmedo — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I have the same hotspots with the first version of Hattori. I won’t buy LC for that only reason… Great shoe anyway.

My review (sorry, in spanish) where I say something about those hotspots:

http://romavincit.blogspot.com…

By: Pete Larson

Pete Larson — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Aaron.

I agree, but if most people are going to be just walking around in the shoe (which, sadly, is the case for most running shoes) the heel pad makes sense. I would like to see either a full width forefoot pod, or remove the pods altogether and use a more durable midsole material like that on the Nike Free or Skechers Go Run.

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By: Sam

Sam — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Now that you've run in both Pete, whats your take on the Bionic vs Hattori LS? They seem to fit a nearly identical niche.

By: amadeus303

amadeus303 — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to amadeus303.

One thing I noticed...the toe box seems a little roomier than before. It's a more comparable feeling now to the Mizuno Wave Universes. This morning, I ran two 3-mile runs back to back (original Hattori vs Hattori LC), and the extra room in the forefoot of the LC was noticeable to me.

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I have been reading your reviews of numerous shoes in order to find a new cross country shoe for my 17 year old son. He generally prefers spikeless, as he is also prone to hotspots and has suffered horrible blood blisters from the heat of our blazing midwestern summers. What do you recommend?

By: Pete Larson

Pete Larson — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Sam.

Yes, definitely similar niche. The Bionic is a bit more shoe and more cushioned so it's more forgiving. Also, I can run longer in the Bionics without getting the hotspots behind my big toe. Hard to beat the Hattori LC for comfort as a walk-around shoe, feels like a slipper.

By: Sam

Sam — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Go 1/2 to 1 size up in these for sure. Trying a pair of 11s now, usually wear 10.5s, and I can feel the slight outsole ridge under my third metatarsal. I do believe if I went another size up the heel would slip though, it's already pretty loose. Guess my feet are abnormal, but none of these curved lasts fit the shape of my very straight foot well. Super comfy shoe though.

By: Ben

Ben — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Pete Larson.

agreed that they should have made the footbed removeable. it's a very soft material, and I know it would blow through pretty quickly under longer miles, especially when one runs without socks.

By: amadeus303

amadeus303 — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Eric Villanueva.

I think the fit is definitely improved, but the inside of the Hattori isn't changed much (if at all). Based on my research, the only change was some additional reinforcement to the toe area of the upper for added durability. I used to get a blister on my right pinky toe from time to time when I'd do longer runs, but haven't experienced that yet on the LC. With that said, I only have ~16 miles on them, so take that with a grain of salt... and my feet may have just adapted to some degree (i.e. calloused over). I really wanted to like the NB MR00's, but the midfoot was too narrow for my taste. The Hattori LC's seem much wider in comparison. I've never tried the Merrell's. If the hotspots/blisters were the primary reason you shied away from the original, I don't know if that will be any different with the LC. Of course, with an improved fit, you may experience less "friction". I still think they could add a little venting to the sole to aid in keeping the footbed dry. The upper is breathable, but it doesn't seem to wick very well.

By: Sam

Sam — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Pete Larson.

I believe a slim insert used in the Hattori should eliminate the hotspots. I know you like the one from the Bionic, I don't have that but have tried the Hagio insert to good effect. There is something about that sewn in footbed that gets very warm and rubs the wrong way.

By: Pete Larson

Pete Larson — Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In reply to Stephen Boulet.

My results are similar, a bit of cushion even in a zero drop shoe really seems to take the edge off of the calves, though if I run in uncushioned shoes regularly I adjust.14 miles in the Hattori and my calves were fine, but I've also been running zero drop regularly for three years.