Comments on: The State of the Running Shoe Market: December 2011 Running Specialty Sales Data from Leisure Trends https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:28:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 By: Paul Joyce https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-433339412 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-433339412 Pete, I would be interested in your view as to why minimalist trail shoes appear to be much more popular than their road counterparts. It certainly aligns with my own experience where it’s rare to see minimalist shoes in road running events but at trail running events around twenty per cent of runners wear minimalist trail shoes. At one level this might be a little counter intuitive. Cheers, Paul

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By: Macmhagan https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-433078554 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-433078554 Thanks for the post Pete.  Very good information.  At least the Nike Free has a wide toe box and is light – still a heel strikers dream shoe though.

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By: Macmhagan https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-433077535 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-433077535 In reply to Solamente Dave.

It’s marketing.  Give Nike credit, they were touting the barefoot shoe experience years ago (I owned one of the first pair of Frees). And if you walk into a big running shoe store and ask for minimal they are going to show you the Nike Free first and may not have any of the other options at all.

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By: Lindsay Knake https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-443526190 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-443526190 In reply to Solamente Dave.

I wouldn’t call the Free a minimal shoe either, but it is a lot “less” shoe than many running shoes on the market. I bought a pair for comfortable casual wear a year and a half ago, and I did go for a few runs in them to see what they were like. Turns out, I loved how light and flexible they were compared to my Brooks Glycerins. Now I run in two pair of Brooks racing flats and Vibram Five Fingers. The Nike Free, which feel like slippers, served as my “gateway” shoe into a better world. Just like Pete has written on this blog. The Free has a time and a place and I’m really glad I bought them.

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-435428146 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-435428146 In reply to Paul Joyce.

I’d concur with your observation re trail vs. road races. Part of it may simply be that trail runners are more likely to have the “simply” type of attitude toward things. There are also a number of prominent trail runners like Tony Krupicka who help design and promote more minimal shoes, so that certainly helps. Also, outdoor stores like REI and EMS tend to stock a lot more minimalist models than would a typical sporting goods store.

Perhaps most of all though in terms of sales, I think trail runners are less likely to be beginners or fitness joggers, and thus they are probably a lot more likely to be discerning in their shoe tastes. They probably know what they like, and are more aware of what others are wearing. A lot of folks who go into a shoe store, even a running specialty store, are not buying shoes to use for running. Thus, these sales data include sales of a lot of shoe that will never actually be used for their intended purpose. People looking for a pair of “sneakers” are more likely to go with what looks familiar to them.

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By: Aaron Mailey https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-444452152 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-444452152 In reply to Pete Larson.

I think as well there are two other reasons: 

People believe they need more cushioning for roads as they are harder but with trails being a bit softer they are willing to go with less.

Also, particularly from a technical point of view it helps to have more ground feel on the trail so perhaps more conducive to these shoes.

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By: Jens https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-433059642 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-433059642 But what does it say about running specialty stores if neutral shoes outperform stability ones? More people with a neutral gait and supinators start running than overpronators?

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By: Tom Buckner https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-433071441 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-433071441 I like the recent increase because it means more variety, more choice, and more competition in the minimal category.  As long as we continue to see the quality and don’t get mired in cheap knock-offs, I’m happy.  So far I love what has been offered and hope these companies continue to follow the ‘fad’, and eventually it will become as normal as heeled shoes once were.

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By: Fynn Glover https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-813309016 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-813309016 Hi Peter,
Thanks for the great post.

Do you know where I might find information on the size of the specialty run industry in terms of number of specialty run retailers?

Many thanks in advance

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By: Runbirduk https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-433315166 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-433315166 In reply to Jens.

Possibly customers who overpronate very slightly and/or who seem to have more of a midfoot strike are given more options to choose from now that retailers are armed with more knowledge, rather than just shoved into a mild support shoe…. at least in decent specialist shops.
Or maybe just due to an increase in orthotic sales, ha ha.

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-433060960 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-433060960 In reply to Jens.

Or simply that the whole fitting process based on pronation control isn’t all that meaningful.

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By: Lindsay Knake https://runblogger.com/2012/02/state-of-running-shoe-market-december.html#comment-443530112 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=356#comment-443530112 In reply to Pete Larson.

I just went on competitor.com and complained about a ridiculous “5 shoe buying tips” post. I don’t understand how an untrained or barely trained employee at a running store can tell by watching me walk has any basis on telling me what kind of shoe I need. I’d only take advice from an expert who gives sound advice, like yourself.

In my circles, I’m known as a runner and people often ask me for advice on picking out running shoes. I tell them all the same thing – try on as many brands as you can and as many styles as you can. Run in them, and pick the one that feels best. This might not always work because buying running shoes is a trial and error process. None of this “arch height” BS!

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