Comments on: Brooks PureProject Details and Shoe Images Released https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:57:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.12 By: Brooks Pure | sz9 https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-1129537146 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:57:36 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-1129537146 […] no podemos hablar de influencia del barefoot running, pero sí un enfoque más minimalista. Más aquí. Lo que podemos juzgar desde aquí, el diseño, me parece muy […]

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-178566922 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-178566922 In reply to Kski213.

This then begs the question – is more technology a good thing, and where is
the evidence for it if it is.

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By: Spyros1976 https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-176708125 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-176708125 I would like to see more companies making shoes like the Altra Instinct. Cushioning with zero drop. That is what is the market missing. I hope that the Brooks Pureproject shoes don’t have the same arch support as the Kinvara.

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By: Charles Therriault https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-177560359 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-177560359 In reply to Pete Larson.

It sounds like Brooks may be getting a little too wrapped up in their marketing campaign of these shoes. It sounds like they are trying to get the message across that they are making high tech lightweight shoes. A little too much float vs feel, which is kind of cheesy any ways.

I think they should take a page out of the New Balance or Merrel textbook and talk about form and how their shoes help the runner with a more efficient gait a.k.a. getting off those heels. That is what we really want to hear.

I think they could make that case too because the split shoe design does seem innovative.

I am really excited about the most minimal one and I think that will sell the best, unlike Weber who thinks it is Pure Flow (another Kinvara). The Pure Connect seems to fit a missing part of the market right know because it is more minimal than kinvara and NB road, but more cushion than Merrell, Five Fingers, Evos, NB Trail. A get place that only a few racing flats are in right now (Hyper speed and Rockets)

Charlie

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By: Craig Lloyd https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-237995304 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-237995304 In reply to briderdt.

This is months late, but I’ll reply to your “jury is out” statement. I’ve worn Brooks, New Balance, Inov-8, and now Altra. I can tell you that the jury is in favor of Altra. It is the best shoe on the market. Comfort, foot shape, and zero drop. There is no better combination. I’ve put 450+ miles on mine and just got done running a 100 miler in them. My feet have never been better.

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By: Stanley https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-177122857 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-177122857 I’m not sure I understand the point of this line, other than taking a little market share (as Aaron speculated) from Saucony and somewhat cynically cashing in on what management apparently sees as an annoying and short-lived fad.

What’s interesting to me is that Brooks already makes half of a really good semi-minimalist shoe: the Green Silence. I have a pair that I occasionally use on longer runs (15+ miles) because I like having a little more cushioning at times, though doing the bulk of my mileage in VFFs, EVOs, the new Merrell Trail Gloves, and barefoot makes me only too aware of the rather thick outsole and significant heel/forefoot offset on the GS.

Which I guess is my slightly long-winded way of saying that if Brooks simply replaced the existing 23mm/13mm sole on the Green Silence with, say, a 5 or 6mm thick, zero-drop sole, they’d have an awesome (and much more “minimalist”) shoe that would be very light, quite comfortable, fairly durable, and suited to a wide range of distances.

The Pure Project shoes do look nice, though.

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By: Allan Carter https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-178607932 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-178607932 From the description of the Connect: “as little as necessary”? So 14mm in the heel and 10mm in the forefoot is “necessary”? For what exactly? If there were only 10mm in the heel, what would the consequence be? Good thing they’ve done the research to back those statements up…

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By: Rafn86 https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-358281022 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-358281022 In reply to Pete Larson.

Agree on the Connect is way to narrow.. But im thinking of maby try out the flow. But can not find a good answer on whats the drop is in Flow some say 4mm other 8mm, do you have a “correct” answer on this if its 4mm or 8mm

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-358421060 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-358421060 In reply to Rafn86.

I have the Flow – can’t recall if I’ve measured it, but they report it as 4mm and it certainly feels like 4mm on my foot.

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By: Ken B https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-332736325 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-332736325 disappointed with the Pure Connect having run distances from 8-22 miles. the sole pods felt lumpy and the insoles are way too cush.   don’t think the big toe separation really does anything and too much toe spring which allows little road feel.   the positive is the wide toe box and nice snug fit which does not “bite” and blister.  if Brooks would drop the exess cush, provide a flat sole minus the pods and get real with the toe they might have a great minimalist type shoe.

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By: Kski213 https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-178565963 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-178565963 In reply to jabroni.

I think I have to agree. Perhaps Weber’s statements have been taken out of context. “Less is more” is crap in his mind because they may be a more minimalist shoe…but more technology has gone into their design. Its not just taking away from a shoe to make it more minimal.

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By: KevinWSchell https://runblogger.com/2011/04/brooks-pureproject-details-and-shoe.html#comment-177090638 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=483#comment-177090638 I won’t be buying any of these models after reading Weber’s comments. If he truly believes in the superior performance of shoes with maximum cushioning and maximum features (e.g., medial posts) than the only conclusion that seems reasonable to me is that Brooks is being disingenuous with this product launch…or maybe they’re just being patronizing in order to cash in on the minimalist market. Either way, I don’t need to support Brooks when there are companies like Saucony, Vibram, Merrel and Altra that appear to be creating products that benefit and fit the needs of their consumer base.

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