Comments on: Vertical Impact Loading Rate in Running: Post #2 from Jay Dicharry of the UVA Speed Lab https://runblogger.com/2011/02/vertical-impact-loading-rate-in-running_08.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.12 By: Zé https://runblogger.com/2011/02/vertical-impact-loading-rate-in-running_08.html#comment-440191239 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=505#comment-440191239 what Nigg is saying is that the magnitude of the impact forces dissipate as they move up the body, and that their magnitude is much smaller relative to the joint forces produced due to muscle contraction. not that I necessarily agree with him

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By: SC Runner https://runblogger.com/2011/02/vertical-impact-loading-rate-in-running_08.html#comment-143531293 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=505#comment-143531293 Are you familiar with Benno Nigg’s work? In Amby Burfoot’s interview with Nigg (on the Runner’s World website, Jan. 9, 2011) Nigg claims “the internal impact forces are relatively small compared to the internal active forces and – from a loading point of view – we should not be too much concerned about impact forces.” I only quote this because I have no idea how to paraphrase it! Anyway, so much focus is on impact forces and I’m curious what your take is on Niggo’s claim that these are not the forces we should be worried about.

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By: The Running Gator https://runblogger.com/2011/02/vertical-impact-loading-rate-in-running_08.html#comment-144862290 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=505#comment-144862290 Reminds of my exercise physiology class at the University of Utah! Love it! It is too bad that such classes cannot be more economically available for those who are not in college. Of course your site is helping out with that!

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By: Mark U. https://runblogger.com/2011/02/vertical-impact-loading-rate-in-running_08.html#comment-142702970 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=505#comment-142702970 Makes sense. Consistent with Jay’s conclusion that runners should minimize our loading rate, my only tibial stress fracture occurred two years ago as a consequence of my foolishly sprinting downhills while heel striking (at the time I had not yet made my transition to my mid-foot).

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2011/02/vertical-impact-loading-rate-in-running_08.html#comment-143544012 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=505#comment-143544012 In reply to SC Runner.

As best as I can understand things, it seems that Nigg does not view impact
forces as being a problem. He generally cites a paper of his published in
1997 in which he reports the results of a graduate thesis (from a student of
his?) that showed that neither peak impact force nor vertical loading rate
are linked with higher injury risk. He reported that higher loading rate was
actually associated with reduced injury risk. I have not read the thesis to
which the paper refers, so I don’t know much about it – trying to get a
copy, but interlibrary loan has not come through yet after several weeks of
waiting. My problem is that if it is not published in a peer reviewed
journal, it is difficult to come to firm conclusions about the reliability
of the study. My understanding is that it also only looked at short term
injury risk and did not differentiate between types of injury.

Although impact force may be smaller than active force, impact loading rate
is generally higher, and loading rate is what others have suggested is
linked to injury. So basically, there is a debate in the literature as to
whether loading rate is linked to injury risk. Nigg would say no, whereas
others (like Jay Dicharry did in his post) would say yes.

Pete

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