Comments on: Newton Panel Discussion on Natural Running Form and Shoes: This is a Must Listen https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html Running Shoes, Gear Reviews, and Posts on the Science of the Sport Sun, 19 Sep 2010 02:30:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.11 By: Rob https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-96997172 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-96997172 I created a tinyurl to make it easy to download on my smartphone, which is where I’ll listen to it:

tinyurl.com/newtonmp3

Thanks for writing this great blog & sharing your experience and knowledge.

Rob

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-80178776 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-80178776 In reply to Joe Garland.

Joe,

It gets back to the whole issue that I brought up that heel striking
is a spectrum. Meb heel strikes, but he also doesn’t seem to have an
extended leg while doing so. He did win NYC, but he also fractured his
hip while running in the Olympic Marathon trials, so it’s hard to say
if what he is doing is good or bad. I also don’t think we can really
know if he would be better or worse if he switched to midfoot. What
will be interesting is to see how Dathan Ritzenhein does at the NYC
marathon this Fall as Alberto Salazar recently switched him to a
midfoot strike (along with Alan Webb).

Pete

On Wednesday, September 22, 2010, Disqus

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By: Mark U. https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79268968 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79268968 Pete – Thanks for coordinating with Newton and offering the MP3 file; indeed this’ll be far easier for me to listen to (appropriately, while running!)

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By: mvd https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79149930 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79149930 thanks for the mp3

this is a great blog.

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79341685 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79341685 In reply to Chris K.

Chris,

I takes a lot of time and effort, but form change can be accomplished. I ran
19 miles today, and am pretty sure I managed to avoid the heels for almost
the entire way. Are you working with Jeff at PRSfit?

Pete

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By: Mark U. https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79298680 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79298680 Just got back from my run where I finished listening to the panel discussion. Very good! I had a bit of a revelation when in the final 10-minutes of the discussion the excellent points are made (primarily be Danny Dreyer): a) That we should discard the word “strike” and replace that word with “landing” when referring to the forefoot landing; b) That there’s a huge difference between forefoot *landing* versus forefoot *loading* (the former being appropriate, but when a long-distance/high-mileage runner attempts both forefoot landing and loading they significantly raise their likelihood of injury); c) One of the benefits of the runner relaxing is that upon forefoot landing their mid-foot will naturally load.

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By: Pete Larson https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79341730 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79341730 In reply to mvd.

No problem – appreciate the comment!

Pete

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By: Joe Garland https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-80175013 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-80175013 I didn’t listen to it all, but too much seems of the view that one should run “natural” because it’s natural. Like unpasteurized milk? Was anything said about the fact that the last two Americans to win NY are heelstrikers (who presumably would not have won were they forced to run midfoot)?

But for all of this, the key, and right with what we spoke about on RRT, is at 2:45 of number 2, it doesn’t matter where you land but how you land. (Jay Dicharry)

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By: Chris K https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79341740 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79341740 In reply to Chris K.

Ooops, I meant stress fractures

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By: Tamara Bailley https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79526576 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79526576 Thanks for converting into mp3 files, Pete. This is a big help for me especially the form. I had a horrible experience while running barefooted until I tried using newton shoes. In fact, I have a picture of my right deformed foot here – http://bit.ly/9vn3S2. Newton shoes really helps me a lot. Thanks again, Pete.

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By: Chris K https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79341508 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79341508 Pete, thanks for this post and converting to .mp3. I am a Newton fan who thought he was runing mid-foot. Turns out, not even close. I loved the recent RRT’s episode on form too – great job by the panel and Joe. My Coach lives in CO and just became a Certified Newton Coach (not sure of exact title). With a lot of practice and minfullness, I am really hoping the change my form. I have had two calcaneus stress fractices in the past two years! Again, thanks!

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By: Todd https://runblogger.com/2010/09/newton-panel-discussion-on-natural.html#comment-79343596 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/runblogger/wordpress/?p=568#comment-79343596 Pete,
Thanks for bringing this panel discussion to our attention. I thought it was excellent. It definitely reinforces my belief that my efforts in making a transition to this form have been well worth it. Your blog keeps getting better and better!

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